Tree swallow anxiety, try this.

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randy741985
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4th year trying to attract Martin's, And dealing with tree swallow anxiety try this.

I'm going to have one gourd open on my s&k rack to attract tree swallows, they seem to arrive before Martin's here. I will also have.a gourd on a shepards hook. If they take the one on the rack I will lower it for a few days, then move the shepards hook to be exactly were the rack gourd is. Move the shepards hook half way were it was then the next day then 20 feet from the rack the next day leaving the rack down the entire time. Lift the rack back up. Before some people start balking on me for suggesting this I have done it and it works I found this method on chucks purple Martin page.

I have had nesting tree swallows for the past couple years and have moved them this way, I have read they will come back the following year and take the one they used the following year On the shepards hook. That is not been my experience they want one high on that rack. So instead fighting them try this.
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deancamp
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Nice post, good to have real world remedies. Not all problems are solved by only one method.
flyin-lowe
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I've heard of people moving them if they get into a gourd rack without the landloard knowing about it. In your case I would not give them the option. Leave the gourd rack gourds closed up so the only option they have is the near by shepherds hook. I know all to well the frustration of dealing with TS, we have a huge population in my area and the caused me all kinds of problems starting out. Both times I had to follow Dan Drews protocol to a "T" giving them a gourd near the martin housing and getting a pair using it and not allowing other TS on my martin housing.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
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2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
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randy741985
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flyin-lowe wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:31 pm
I've heard of people moving them if they get into a gourd rack without the landloard knowing about it. In your case I would not give them the option. Leave the gourd rack gourds closed up so the only option they have is the near by shepherds hook. I know all to well the frustration of dealing with TS, we have a huge population in my area and the caused me all kinds of problems starting out. Both times I had to follow Dan Drews protocol to a "T" giving them a gourd near the martin housing and getting a pair using it and not allowing other TS on my martin housing.
I appreciate your input, I had rather take a week to do this then fighting them off for weeks on end. I tried the Protocol I like this way better.
But This is just what works for me.

Thanks.
2018-14 Gourds First Year 0 Martins
2019- 14 Gourds Lots Lookers
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2021- TBD
flyin-lowe
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Hopefully I don't sound argumentative, as that is not my intent. I am always interested in ways to help when it comes to Tree Swallows. I help a lot of people in my area with martins and TS are the biggest problem getting started.

Have you tried the method that you are describing or are you planning to do it this way. I am still trying to figure out why a tree swallow who starts in a gourd rack and is moved to location "X" in your yard, is going to be more or less likely to stay there then a tree swallow that starts in location "X" from the beginning?
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
randy741985
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flyin-lowe wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:55 pm
Hopefully I don't sound argumentative, as that is not my intent. I am always interested in ways to help when it comes to Tree Swallows. I help a lot of people in my area with martins and TS are the biggest problem getting started.

Have you tried the method that you are describing or are you planning to do it this way. I am still trying to figure out why a tree swallow who starts in a gourd rack and is moved to location "X" in your yard, is going to be more or less likely to stay there then a tree swallow that starts in location "X" from the beginning?
I have done it this way, It works well for me. I think the lowering of the Rack for a few days gets them use to it. IDK.

The protocol seems like a lot more work and anxiety, I prefer this way but that is just me. But then again I don't have Martins yet either.

Thanks for the Reply.

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