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James Strickland FL
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Location: Reidsville NC
Martin Colony History: 2017 Had a lot visitors no Matins nesting, hoping 2018 will be different.
2018 Had 1 pair
2019 had 30 pair

I had my pair show the other day and for the past 2 days a female single is stay the night. My question is, How hard will it be for her to find a mate or will she go with another male to a different colony?
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Emil Pampell-Tx
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Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

She will stay, and she will find a mate quickly. My advice, pay no attention whatsoever to how they pair up initially, it will all work out, and they may sometimes change partners.
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James Strickland FL
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Location: Reidsville NC
Martin Colony History: 2017 Had a lot visitors no Matins nesting, hoping 2018 will be different.
2018 Had 1 pair
2019 had 30 pair

Thanks Emil I know hard is to get a female to stay and I was hoping she will find a mate soon and stay. Just trying to build my colony. Nervous!
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Jeff Robinson
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That's what makes us martin-aholics James. I went thru big time anxiety my first two years, and into the biginning of my 3rd year. My wife was so glad to see my colony take off the 3rd year because she said my mood swings were crazy. I kept a journal on everyday's activity, and that's what helped me begin to understand their behavior.

You've waited a long time, and we're all wishing you a big jump this year! I'm sure there were plenty of fledges introduced to your active site last year as they began their migration south, and some of those will return.

Jeff
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James Strickland FL
Posts: 2249
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:04 pm
Location: Reidsville NC
Martin Colony History: 2017 Had a lot visitors no Matins nesting, hoping 2018 will be different.
2018 Had 1 pair
2019 had 30 pair

You are correct Jeff, anxiety is killing me.
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flyin-lowe
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I think if a female is liking the site she is more likely to draw a male in from another site then she is to leave and go to another site looking for a male.

Also, I don't know about everyone else but the last two years after my ASY's started arriving I would have a day or two where I would not see them. The first year I got pretty nervous but after a couple days away they showed back up. I have spoken to other land lords who experience the same.
2021.................HOSP count-5
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
tonyg
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Unless that ASY male is the biggest Casanova in Florida and has a better line than James Bond, I'm thinking your female is safe at your house! Good luck this year. :)
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John Miller
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James


I think your situation differ from when male has found or returned to a site and tries to get females to stay.

Females who show up and spend several nights may well have nested there the previous season. I'd need banding studies to confirm, but suspect females who nest in a house have even more site fidelity to it than the males.

Your early arriving pair may be the male from last year and a new female, and your lone female may have been paired with that male last year. Her presence will bring more males to the site soon.

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James Strickland FL
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Martin Colony History: 2017 Had a lot visitors no Matins nesting, hoping 2018 will be different.
2018 Had 1 pair
2019 had 30 pair

:grin: :grin: Thanks everyone. You are right and I like the Idea of more martins at my palce.
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Tim Mangan-Kansas
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Martin Colony History: 2016 - 22 Pair

James:

I agree with all of above. Just to be on safe side, when your female leaves to feed, I would do a nest check to make sure your male did not succumb to the rigors of migration.

Tim
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2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged
BumBee
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James,
Your next big job is to keep the Sparrows and Starlings away from your site.

Trap and shoot (I do this year round). If your feeders are active and
attracting doves, stop those feeders or cut then to one third for start.
This will minimized the avain predators in your area.

Good luck...........
James Strickland FL
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Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:04 pm
Location: Reidsville NC
Martin Colony History: 2017 Had a lot visitors no Matins nesting, hoping 2018 will be different.
2018 Had 1 pair
2019 had 30 pair

Tim I will take a look.

Bumbee- I am hunting them down and taking them out.
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