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Jose Rodriguez
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Location: FL/Belleview

My wife and I have been working hard on getting the Martin Site ready for the season. We put down rye grass seed in January to make it look inviting from up above lol. I wonder what the white gourds look like against the green grass from up above? I have already mowed as you can see the tire tracks on the grass. :grin:

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kehunter
Posts: 138
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Location: TX/Pearland

Jose, how are other sites set up? Do they utilize gourds, houses or a combination of both? Last year's fledglings from other nearby sites might be attracted to new sites that bear some resemblance to their "home" site.
2016 - 6 cavities in Royal Wing/S&K house + 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches on pole 1, 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches on pole 2
2015 - new homebuilt 3 cavity house plus 3 BO9 gourds with tunnels porches on second pole, in addition to prior setup. 15 pairs, 54 fledged
2014 - 6 6x12 house cavities (plastic Royal Wing/S&K), plus 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches offered; 12 pairs, 50 fledged
KathyF
Posts: 3521
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

Very nice site, Jose! How close is that big tree to the right? You may want to consider taking it down - it looks huge!

Best of luck to you this season!
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2016 - 82 pair
2015 - 76 pair
2014 - 75 pair
2013 - 75 pair
2012-72 pair
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taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

I would think your 2 pair will be back. If they do not come back this spring you may want to consider taking that tree out! I know it is hard to do. It is suppose to be 40 ft. But that is a tall tree. If it would fall down would it hit the site? If so it is to close. I think if martins find a better setup they will go to it. Good luck, make yours the best! :)
Sharon from southern Illinois
Jose Rodriguez
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True on all accounts. That is the last tree standing in our Martin site. I really do not like that old water oak tree, but the good thing it is slowly dying. So it will come down soon enough. It is over 80' tall, I'm guessing, but it is leaning away from the last BB house in the photo. So it will differently miss the gourds. We had another years back "same size" that came down and landed on our bat houses and killed a lot of our bats, not to mention our fence. If you look closely you can see on the far end are other dead oak trees in the other lot, only those trees are still standing and house Starlings. :x


Hunter, other sites in the close area "2 miles plus" are houses. We didn't get any Martins last year till March, so I'll wait patiently. :grin:

Thanks for everyones concerns/tips
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JeanS
Posts: 115
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:08 pm
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Martin Colony History: 2002 -Coates metal houses- about 18 pairs
2005 - Added a gourd rack- many more pairs
2007 - Added another gourd rack, gave the Coates houses away
2008-2015 - Experimented with many gourds & a few racks (its a sickness) fledged over 200 chicks/year. Hubby keeps records, not me. :-)
2016 - 64 gourds and expect most will be occupied

Beautiful view! How far from the house is your Purple Martin Rack? Purple Martins have a relationship with humans and they don't like to be too far away from human activity. I'm sure you did your research though. :-)

Curious thing about Purple Martins. They don't read the books about themselves, so sometimes they break their own rules about where to nest. We have a neighbor that placed a Coates Metal house next to a tree. The tree grew and the branches actually reach out all around the Coates. It grates on my nerves that a few Purple Martins actually use that Coates in the tree canopy every year. So unsafe for them.
Jean S
2002 - Coates metal houses- about 18 pairs
2005-2007 - added a gourd rack, then another gourd rack = many more pairs
2008-2015 - Experimented with many gourds & a few racks (its a sickness) fledged over 200 chicks/year
2016 - 64 gourds and expect most will be occupied
kehunter
Posts: 138
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:42 am
Location: TX/Pearland

Do you think a second pole with a house might attract any SY birds from the surrounding area that might be more "imprinted" on a house as opposed to gourds? This would give any "lookers" this year a choice of housing type.
2016 - 6 cavities in Royal Wing/S&K house + 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches on pole 1, 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches on pole 2
2015 - new homebuilt 3 cavity house plus 3 BO9 gourds with tunnels porches on second pole, in addition to prior setup. 15 pairs, 54 fledged
2014 - 6 6x12 house cavities (plastic Royal Wing/S&K), plus 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches offered; 12 pairs, 50 fledged
~Ray~Gingerich
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Location: Delaware/Dover

The tree is not too bad, it's not real dense and has open space around it, also appears to be close to 40 ft away, I think. Believe it or not martins do make use of a nearby tree if not surrounded with other trees.
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1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
Jose Rodriguez
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Location: FL/Belleview

Thanks folks!

Just to clarify, this picture is really deceiving. The large oak tree is 24 ft past the last BB house shown and it is 78 ft to the gourd rack shown in the picture. I hope this puts a better perspective of this photo. :grin:

Have a good week everyone!
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taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Well Jose anything yet! I am super doper rooting for you! I pray, pray, pray you have your birds return! Keep us informed! :grin:

Good luck!!!
Sharon from southern Illinois
Jose Rodriguez
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Nothing yet Sharon. Thanks for checking. Trust me, I will definitely keep you posted as soon as I see/hear anything! Sure did have a lot of fun watching them last season! Fingers crossed!
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Bulldog1
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Location: Mississippi/Hamilton

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2015 - 18 Gourds offered - 12 active nests, 62 eggs, 51 fledged
2014 - 18 gourds offered - 12 active nests, 52 eggs, 48 fledged
2013 - 12 gourds offered - 9 pairs, 56 eggs, 52 hatched, 49 fledged
2012 - 12 gourds offered -4 pairs, 20 eggs, 19 fledged
2011 - 6 gourds offered -1 pair, 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 fledged !!!!
Jose Rodriguez
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Thank you Bulldog! I can hardly wait! :grin:
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avesrun
Posts: 1113
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102

Hello Jose:

Your site is uncannily similar to mine in the way you're set up with the open field and surrounding woods. See photolink. I've made significant changes since the photo was taken; there is two utility poles now to the right of the t-14 shown in the photo with about 50ft. of cable strung between. I also have another pole with houses and gourds that will be located a little closer to my residence. Also, the young red cedar tree to the left of the t-14 has been transplanted to a different location on my property.
Anyway, I still can't get over how similar the lay of the land is between our two sites and I'm hoping both our chances are GOOD! To me it all comes down to ample flyway (which we both have) and how great the martin population is in the surrounding area (which for me is not so great); however, I have enough martins around that I think it is a matter of 3-5 years. Anywayx2, good luck in 2015!
Tim
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Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Prs.!
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair, fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair, fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair, fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair, 163 fledged
2019- 49 or. 219 fledged
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
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Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

You look good Tim. You just need some martins! :)
Sharon from southern Illinois
Jose Rodriguez
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Tim,

Yes you are correct. Very similar sites. I looked through your photos. Very nice. I especially like the Google photo from above. :grin:

Good Luck this season!
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