PMCA Baited Trap and a male sparrow.

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BumBee
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My tipping can trap caught a male sparrow last Tuesday. I decided to place it
Inside one of the baited PMCA traps I have instead quickly disposing it.

There were four more sparrows inside this trap yesterday and they were
all females. Wow, I did not realize how persuasive the male sparrows are.

Yesterday I disposed of four female sparrows, left one female in the trap that
Caught all of these birds and move the male sparrow to the others baited PMCA
sparrow trap.

There one thing wrong about this is the location of this trap, it?s 40 feet from
my PM housing. When I got home from work I saw three sparrows on the PM housing.
A male and two females, the male sparrow went down and Scooter went and picked
it up and brought it to me.
Dale Hrncirik

Toma,

That's a great idea! I think I'll do the same if I can ever catch this male HS that is hanging around my BB box...if I don't shoot him first. I made a sniper's lair out of my shed yesterday and plan to do a little bird hunting this afternoon when I get home :lol:

Dale
BumBee
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I lowered it one foot this year and I?ve not seen purple martins
go to it this season. On the other hand it seems to me that there
are fewer martins at my site. It has produced less catch this year
than previous years.
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BumBee
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I got home yesterday to find that the male sparrow did not entice any other
sparrow to get in with him. On the other hand the female lured a male and a
female in. I disposed of the females and left the new male in.
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BumBee
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I had plenty of time this weekend and I spent most of it watching how the
PMCA baited trap worked. I saw a couple sparrows get in and once it was
In the elevator, it hesitated for second then jumps into the holding camber.

I also saw a male sparrow wedged it self in between the elevator and the
wall below the entrance and escaped capture. This only happened when there
were multiple sparrows in the holding chamber.

Another escaped capture when one sparrow lit on the bottom of the elevator
and one jumped into the elevator and wedged through the small opening of
entrance.

I saw the power of a live sparrow inside the holding chamber attracts other
sparrows. But a combination of food and a live sparrow is even more powerful.

So I placed a thin aluminum (3x3 inch) under the elevator floor and place some bird
seeds on it. The two PMCA baited trap I have caught more sparrows than before.

The only problem I had was a couple white wing doves eating the bird seeds on this
new floor under the elevator floor.

The huge opening once the door is opened needs to be smaller for one of the captured
sparrow found freedom in between my arm and the top right hand corner.
BumBee
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I got home yesterday to find that the PMCA trap caught a white wing dove.

I guess the thin sheet of aluminum I attached to the bottom of the elevator
floor worked too well.
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BumBee
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Since I?ve kept live sparrows in a cage forty feet away from my martin housing,
I?ve noticed that in the last three nest checks, I?ve not seen any sparrow damage
to the martin colony at my backyard.

The only draw back as far is that the PMCA baited traps I have has been silent.
I?ve been busy with my pellet rifle though.

This will be interesting to see if this is a good thing.
Nanette
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Toma
WOW!! I am impressed. I have not been able to catch any Hosp in my repeating trap. I have loaded it with male HOSP, millet and feathers and still no luck. This week I will be receiving a Trio Grandma and 3 spare-o-doors. I sure hope I'll be catching them then! A local falconer has Peregrine hatchlings. I hope they are hungry!
Fledge on!
Nanette
BumBee
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Nanette,
Thank you????.
I have dedicated as much or even more time to catching sparrows than attracting
martins to my backyard. I think I?m located on a ?sweet spot? for the martins
so I don?t worry much about attracting martins.

Ever since the time I saw what the sparrows can do to a martin colony, I?ve
been catching and shooting sparrows.

Cavity ?nest traps? works well before the martins arrives. I find that baited
trap works the best year round, the PMCA baited trap have worked very well
for me.

I have two PMCA baited traps deployed at various locations around my residence
and one tipping can S&S trap permanently placed forty feet away from my martin
housing. I am currently working on another sparrow trap ( nothing like it on the market).

I keep a pellet rifle handy when I?m at home.
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Nanette
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Hi Toma,
I have trapped about 5 sparrows in the nest box traps so far this year. The problem is that now that the martins are nesting and the sparrows keep going in and out of the occupied cavities, I can't use the nest box trap. I have tried several times to use the repeating trap but to no avail. I am glad someone is having luck with it! I should be receiving my Trio Grandma house today and will be using it as a dedicated sparrow trap. Come to Momma Sparrows!!
Fledge on!
Nanette
BumBee
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Nanette,
This would awesome to make this house you?re getting dedicated to catching
sparrows. This means modifications to the entrances just for the sparrows.

Good luck with this, catch and feed them to the falcons.
BumBee
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As of 30May06 between the three repeating traps and me have a total of
71 sparrows and 16 starlings this season.

With the live sparrows in a cage forty feet away from my martin housing, it
attracts the in coming sparrows to this cage instead of the martin housing.

This season there is no sparrow damage done to the martins. I was very
apprehensive at first but now I am convinced with this new trick. The five
sparrows in this cage seems to be doing well. They are very lively and full
of vigor. All I am waiting now is for them to start nesting. This would really be awesome if they did.
Emil Pampell-Tx
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Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

Sounds like you are doing a wonderful job of catching the sparrows. I wish you continued success.
Nanette
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Wow Toma!
71 Sparrows!! I don't know what I am doing wrong but I haven't caught any in my Grandma yet. Perhaps I should throw some millet on the porch!
Fledge on!
Nanette
BumBee
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Thank you Emil...........

Nanette,
I think the reason the traps in your Grandma is not working is that the
sparrows are busy teaching and feeding their young that they are not
interested in looking for a nest site (cavity)

Since I kept live sparrows in a cage, I have been busy with my pellet rifle.
The tipping can trap has worked early in the season. the PMCA baited trap
work really well with the young are being taught how to find food.

I think I have been successful in this is a combination of the tipping can trap,
the two PMCA baited traps and vigilance on my part. I also think that the live
sparrows kept in a cage helped a lot.
Nanette
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Hi Toma,
I have the PMCA repeating trap. I was putting it on my deck which attracts alot of sparrows (unfortunately) because I have a feeder with sunflower seeds and meal worms for the BB. Perhaps I should resort to that trap again. I have never been that "lucky" with it on the deck. Can you give me suggestions as to where to put it? I don't want to keep it in the full sun but I am afraid the sparrows won't see it if I put it under the shade of a tree on the ground.
Fledge on!
Nanette
BumBee
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Nanette,
I place my PMCA baited traps outside my patio by the drive way on the floor
and caught plenty of sparrows there. Then is just sopped so I move them close
to my home made feeders. The trick is not to put too much bird seeds in the
feeders the it will run out of bird seeds by mid day. Then all is left is what?s
in the traps. I got home an hour early from work yesterday and I had a chance
to watch two young sparrows get in on one of the PMCA baited trap. There
were about eight to ten sparrows hopping all over both traps and got two
of them.

I had to put a piece of chicken wire over the entrance so the doves can?t get in.
Early on the season on of the PMCA baited raps caught a Mocking bird (state bird)
when I was using dry dog food for bait. I thing this bird was going after the flies
that were on the dog food. Then it caught a white wing dove. Last week end it
caught a young male cardinal and a full grown male Cardinal. All were release
with no harm done to these birds.

There were times that I place the PMCA baited trap in one place and for days i
Waited and nothing, then before I knew is there was a catch.

Place it where you see the sparrows go and just be a little patient.
BumBee
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Between the two baited sparrow trap, the tipping can S&S trap and me,
80 sparrows and 18 starlings so far. Eight sparrows are in the 32x32x24
cage alive and doing well.

Yesterday I had a chance to sit and watch 10 to 12 sparrows in action. They
hang around the Arizona Ash that is in my back door neighbor?s yard and also
provides shade to my backyard. It was like a roller coaster up and down,
from the tree branches to the 32x32x24 live sparrow cage. At the same
time my martins housing is full of visitors and resident martins. All of the
sounds these birds are producing while some of the nests are fledging
their young and I think this attracted so many sparrows. But on the other
hand not a single sparrow went to my martin housing. All they did was go
to the cage with live sparrows in it. The thirty minutes I was there, two
went to sparrow heaven.

The 2 PMCA baited trap helped a lot on the 80 sparrows but more are
going by the pellets. I placed a small floor on the elevator so it will hold
some bird seeds and placed a baffle to stop the white wing dove from
getting caught. This did but it has not stopped the small birds from
getting caught in them.

So far these two traps have produced:
One mocking bird-released
One white wing dove-released
One young male cardinal-released
One adult male cardinal
One young squirrel-released
One inca dove-released
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BumBee
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Folks,
I’m keeping 4 to 6 House Sparrows in my 36x36x24 cage with a PMCA Repeating Baited trap.

The trap is still producing 2 to 4 House Sparrows every two weeks.
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