For us "Wannabe" Landlords 2016

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Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Hello Everyone,

Well here we go again!!!! Just noticed a report of a martin in the county west of me so I have to take the day off and head home to get my gourd racks up!!! Good luck to everyone who posted on this thread last year. Can't quite remember if we lost any members but hoping we did!!! Unfortunately, with my 5 nestlings not making it last year, I'm back in the club. :-(

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
Dan G
Posts: 405
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:52 pm
Location: PA/Bellefonte
Martin Colony History: Trying since 2014. Visitors, but no nests. Several colonies with in 6 mile radius.
2020- An SY male built a nest but could not attract a mate.

Sign me up. I saw a Scout report that martins are in SW PA!! Im going to put my house up this weekend.
Bellefonte PA
2014, 1st year-a few lookers, no nests
2015, 'Spot' SY male, here every day from 5-28 to 6-23
2016 added a perch wire between house and gourd rack
offering 22 cavities, T-14 plus 8 gourds
2016, multiple visitors from 6-20 on. Almost daily
2017- Lots of visitors late in season.
2018- Adding another T-14. Few visitors
2019- Hopeful but stopped holding my breath
2020-SY male built a nest.
Lozinger
Posts: 26
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:12 pm
Location: Bangor PA

Mine's going up this weekend too!
avesrun
Posts: 1120
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102

I'm a partial wannabe; had 2 pair at satellite site but still need home site to get going. If they don't return to satellite will be full-fledged wannabe again.
TimG
PMCA Member
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
MamaBruff
Posts: 1466
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:21 pm
Location: SW Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.

Count me in too.

I'd REALLY decided to quit this past winter (see my profile info)... but am now back in "the club". A little wiser and more patient, I might add.
If the PMs come and stay this year, awesome! If not, so what. It is what it is.

PS: TimG I am so happy that your Quarry site has a new colony. They will surely be back. Eventually your beautiful home site will get PMs too. I think it is a lot about how big the PM population is in the area, and how "Brave" the "Homesteaders" are. I saw with my own eyes last summer while visiting Tim Mangan's place, there was an SY pair trying to take over a gourd late in the season while the REAL ASY gourd owners were out with their fledglings feeding for the day! (Tim said there was an eviction every evening, hehe) Martins just like to be with other Martins.
~Mary B~

Lifelong PM Admirer and Nature Enthusiast.
Ruthless trapper of S&S year round.
2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.
Dan G
Posts: 405
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:52 pm
Location: PA/Bellefonte
Martin Colony History: Trying since 2014. Visitors, but no nests. Several colonies with in 6 mile radius.
2020- An SY male built a nest but could not attract a mate.

MB, I'm glad your still trying. I remember you posting about your health issues. I'm rooting for everyone to get out of the wannabe club, but you get an extra helping.
Bellefonte PA
2014, 1st year-a few lookers, no nests
2015, 'Spot' SY male, here every day from 5-28 to 6-23
2016 added a perch wire between house and gourd rack
offering 22 cavities, T-14 plus 8 gourds
2016, multiple visitors from 6-20 on. Almost daily
2017- Lots of visitors late in season.
2018- Adding another T-14. Few visitors
2019- Hopeful but stopped holding my breath
2020-SY male built a nest.
sdsteil-IA
Posts: 85
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:13 pm
Location: Iowa/Keystone
Martin Colony History: 2020 - First nesting pair.
2002 - 2019 - Trying

Count me in. I will be setting up my Tree Swallow gourds this week and then setting up my new-used gourd rack this weekend. I won't be opening up my houses yet; just getting excited.

I trapped two House Sparrows in my shop yesterday. Easy shooting with the BB gun. The cats had fun chasing them around also.

I am really hoping that this is my year to get kicked out of the Wannabe Landlord Club. Hope you all get kicked out this year also.

Cheers David
2020 - 1 nesting pair
2012-2019 - 0 nesting pairs
2011 - Bought 18 acre farm with a 1 acre pond
2008-2010 – 0 nesting pairs
2007 – 1 nesting pair. Female died trying to lay 4th egg
2002 - 2006. 0 nesting pairs
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Let's all shut this club down this year!!! Lock the door and throw away the key! :)
Sharon from southern Illinois
Thais G
Posts: 93
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 6:37 pm
Location: CT/Darien
Martin Colony History: Started at unsuitable location in 2008. Many lessons learned since. Two tentative locations: Rogers International School and the "Fish Church" (downtown.) One pair in 2015; no fledglings though. No pairs 2016.

One more here - I'm in CT and had a pair nest, but then a bachelor came and destroyed eggs and all - that was though to see... We will upgrade the set too! Crossing fingers and toes!
Thais Gherardi
Wannabe Landlord in Stamford, CT (2 tentative sites):
- Rogers International School (S&K barn since 2013; Alamo House installed 2016)
- "Fish Church"/downtown Stamford (Alamo House installed 2016)
Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Mary I'm right there with you. I've thought about not trying again as well. I'm currently batting 50 percent at my new house. Two years nothing and two years I had one pair. At least I'm over the thoughts of "Is my site inadequate, do I need more open flyways, is my housing insufficient". This is the first year where there are no changes or improvements to make. It's funny that I really do not try that hard to have wood ducks, tree swallow, eastern bluebirds, black capped chickadees and mallards nesting all around my house. I've done everything I can do with the martins and if they come they come. If not, I'm not sweating it any longer. We are even hosting a pair of grey squirrels that took up residence in one of the wood duck boxes. I'm at peace knowing all 42 cavities have tunnels, porches, owl guards, pine straw and predator guards. I'm done putting up housing and if they come they come.

Good luck to all and it will be fun to share our season as we did last year.

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
avesrun
Posts: 1120
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102

Great to hear from you MBruff and MBooth! This is year 5 at my home and I have the exact sentiments you've both expressed. I have faith the Martins will come. Prayers are answered in one of 3 ways: "no", "yes", or "not yet". I have to believe that we are not dealing with the first one!
Stay ready; they're coming!
TimG
PMCA Member
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

That's a big AMEN! Tim, Mitch, and Mary! When you've done all you can do its just done! I really want them but won't be upset if they decide not to. It is what it is! There's Enough in my life to be thankful for. Having martins will just add a little spice to my life! :wink:
Sharon from southern Illinois
MamaBruff
Posts: 1466
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:21 pm
Location: SW Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.

One more thing I am doing different than I have done before. I have ordered a dawnsong "magnet" to see if that will help. DebA, Tim Mangan, and countless others swear by them. So I drank the purple Koolaid and figured what the heck.
People say that "A boat is a hole in the water to throw money into." Got that T shirt. Guess I need to get one that says "Establishing a Purple Martin Colony is like a hole in the air to throw money into."... Wheee! I would like one of T shirt in Purple please. (Just being silly.)
Thank you all for your encouragement. Life happens. All days are good days, and some are better than others.
~Mary B~

Lifelong PM Admirer and Nature Enthusiast.
Ruthless trapper of S&S year round.
2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.
Russel Loire
Posts: 44
Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 1:21 pm
Location: SK/Regina

I will tell you the Kool-aid is tasty. I utilized the Birdsong Magnet playing the dawnsong last year and i was lucky enough to have a sym hang out for a few days. This year I've got some fresh new housing with a winch set-up. Got rid of my tilt pole fiasco. I'm going to be blasting that dawnsong from mid-april all the way until the end of june here!

This is our year people!
PMCA Member
2013 - 1 SY Male Looker. Couple of Fly-bys.
2014 - Observed no Lookers :(
2015 - Bird-X Songbird Magnet, Sym and 2 others with him visited 4 days in a row.
2016 - Few Fly-bys at home. Started Public Site, a few vistors
2017 - Home, Visitors, Satellite Site, 3 Pairs, 14 eggs, 10 Fledged!
Ed Pace
Posts: 675
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:31 pm
Location: NY/Jamestown

I think you should keep the want to be club open ,I like it, the only thing is I think that all you members in there now should graduate. But keep the club open for new enlistees . I like the form too but the truth of the matter is ,it would be a little bit stale if it weren't for you wannabes. Keep your decoys up and your CDs playing ,good luck.

Welcome back mama , so glad to hear from you again, keep your chin up. Ed.
BrianC
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:53 pm
Location: Charles County, MD
Martin Colony History: Put up 8 natural gourds in 2015 got a few visits only.

Count me in the club too.
Last year was my first year. I grew some natural gourds around 7 1/2 - 9 inch diameter and put them up and got a few visitors. I found some better seeds and grew 10 -11 inch diameter gourds and put on tunnels and porches this year so I am hopeful this year.

I also have 16 other boxes and host many tree swallows, bluebirds, chickadees, titmice and wood ducks on our 12 acres.

We have a huge Tree swallow population here due to the creek and beaver pond, so I can't really open up the gourds til they settle in to their boxes.

Good luck to all my club-mates in 2016
Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Mary,

I will tell you with 100% certainty that the Dawnsong works!!! It will draw in every martin for at least an initial look if they are within the area.

My old location was directly across the street from the Nimisila Roost. Every evening, an hour before dark, I would have literally 1,000's of birds circling my house due to the Dawnsong playing. As soon as I turn the Dawnsong off they would disburse. I've experimented quite a bit with it from playing it as loud as a rock concert and playing at a relatively low volume. The more natural low volume worked as well as playing it too loud. My new location is about a mile away from the Nimisila Roost instead of being across the street and from July 15 to September 1st I play the Dawnsong 24/7 and have several thousand birds here a day. I also play it 24/7 in the spring until I have birds spending the night. Since I really haven't been successful getting a colony going I may just play it all season this year.

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
tor
Posts: 241
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: Capacity: 72 Troyers on 3 X Super-24 racks

Just don't give up, guys. Some try for years before they start seeing results, myself included. We had 4 nesting pair last year, with at least a couple of dozen rambunctious yearlings staying for from end of April until end of season. What a show. First couple of ASY males showed up yesterday. Never ever seen martins this early before. This tells me we might, just might have returning martins.

Keep it up!!! Don't loose hope.
Location: Marlboro County, SC

2021: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22
2020: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/11 - 71 pair - 298 fledged
2019: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22 - 70 pair - 315 fledged
2018: Capacity: 70 - First Scouts: 2/18 - 60 pair - 270 fledged
2017: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 2/25 - 39 pair
2016: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 3/10 - 32 pair
2015: Capacity: 24 - First Scouts: 3/23 - 4 pair

Purple Martins Of South Carolina
MamaBruff
Posts: 1466
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:21 pm
Location: SW Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.

Ed Pace, I like what you said about our "Club". There will always be Wannabees, all with similar problems, trials, and tribulations, and tears... To "graduate" sounds like a worthy achievement goal!

Today, I have discovered that one of the investigating starlings is NOT "too fat" for my Conley II entrances! UGH! I have 3 Troyer-Haskell traps now deployed, and blocked my other gourds. I have enough Lewis Modification parts for 4 gourds if need be. Starlings have just not been a problem at my location until now. Perhaps I will get lucky (Ha Ha) and catch this one outlier bird.

3/11/6:22 PM... UPDATE: Smallish Male Starling caught in the Troyer-Haskell Trap.
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~Mary B~

Lifelong PM Admirer and Nature Enthusiast.
Ruthless trapper of S&S year round.
2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.
Peter Alberda
Posts: 175
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:09 pm
Location: Michigan, Zeeland
Martin Colony History: Started with Amish copy of Trendsetter 12 room house, added Trio Grandpa with expanded rooms, and North Star 8. Taking Trendsetter down this spring and adding gourd rack.

Count me in. I'm taking the gourds off my houses and putting them on a rack of twelve. There's a guy about ten miles north of me with gourd racks so I'm going to go after those birds. Caught five starlings and four sparrows this week so I'm trying hard! Good luck to all!!
2020 - A pair of SY birds with three nice chicks. Lots of visitors all year long.
2015-2019 - A few lookers.
2014 - ASY male and SY female fledged four chicks.
2013 - Several visitors but none stayed to nest.
2012 - Lots of visitors all season long. We had a pair of sys but no chicks survived.
2011 - New location - A few visitors
2010 - First year – Poor house location.
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