Still just one pair!

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taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

I had my first arrival on April 5th. An ASY male, he attracted his mate the next day! I’ve had numerous martins spend the night together on chilly nights then move on! But 10 days later still the one pair is all I have! It’s been a strange spring for us so I could imagine what it’s like for them! I also don’t think this is my founding pair. They are in a different type gourd on a different rack! My pair arrived May 1 last year and was not expecting them back until at least April 15th. So I’m anxious to see if they come in within the next week or so! I will know if it’s them if they go to their gourd. It’s cold and windy today and have only been out a couple times and tucked in about 1:30 and not been out since! We need nicer weather please!!!! :)
Sharon from southern Illinois
TheSmiths
Posts: 334
Joined: Mon May 12, 2014 1:02 pm
Location: Western KY
Martin Colony History:

Tried to attract PMs since 2004; began more ernest attempt in 2014.

Current housing consists of two modified Trio M12Ks and a round gourd rack.

2018 — 3 pairs

2019 — 6 pairs

2020 — 12 pairs; barred owl late in season


Monitor FILs colony as well as colony at park.

~15 years of providing housing for bluebirds, Carolina wrens, house wrens, Carolina chickadees, tufted titmice, great-crested flycatchers and northern flickers.

taxidermy lady wrote:So I’m anxious to see if they come in within the next week or so! I will know if it’s them if they go to their gourd.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
taxidermy lady wrote:We need nicer weather please!!!!
Hear! Hear!
handyman315
Posts: 298
Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 11:03 am
Location: SW Ohio
Martin Colony History: Colony established May 20, 2017 after three unsuccessful years. Persistent and aggressive Tree Swallows plagued the site, but beyond learning - and practicing - to control them, was the return in 2017 of a 2016-SY-M previously unable to find a mate. As a handsome ASY-M, he brought along two females and a swagger that soon put the Tree Swallow issue to rest. As the anchor pair, he and his mate hatched all six of their eggs into fat and healthy babies into what settled in to be a three-pair, flourishing new colony with up to 11 birds total, including 3 SY-M trouble makers.

Nearly identical scenario here. Lone ASY-M showed up April 6, and within a couple hours his mate, an ASY-F. Clearly my founding pair from last year, e.g., of 18 gourds and a separate apartment style house, they go right back in "their" gourd. Have seen as many as five ASY birds at one time, but the other three have moved on.

My anchor pair appear in reasonably good shape, they "gently" remind the Tree Swallows where their shepherd's hook gourd is, and they calmly peer over at me as they muse, "Yep, there's the old guy". :lol:

Anxious for my subbie wave to arrive, but would be better if they hole up for a couple days while we deal with yet another cold snap here in SW Ohio. :cry:
2020-31 Nesting Pair Fledged 133, three early deaths due to cold & rain
2019-19 Nesting Pair Fledged 84
2018-11 Nesting Pair Fledged 48, ASY-M Arrived April 6, Despite Snow & Cold, Joined Soon by Mate & Two Adult Pairs
2017-3 Nesting Pair Fledged 13, FIRST-YEAR LANDLORD! :grin: Resident SY-M from 2016 Returned (as ASY-M) on May 20. At Least 11 Adult Residents
2016-Late-Arriving SYs, Resident Lone SY-M, Unable to Find Mate
2015 & 2014-Many Visits
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

I hear ya handyman! It’s just Bruttle out there! I would say mine will be tucked in all day! It’s just sad we can’t stay nicer! Good luck this season! :)

Smith’s thanks for your kindness! It’s spitting snow now! No Martins will come in on this raw day! Hopefully!!!!! Good luck this season! :)
Sharon from southern Illinois
madattiver
Posts: 263
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:44 pm
Location: SK/Saskatoon
Martin Colony History: 12 unit North Star + 4 gourds
2014 - 1 pair
2015 - 1 pair
2016 - 1 pair + 1 sub male (until my female died)
2017 - 6 pair

1 didn't get on here much last year, so I am happy to hear you had a successful pair!! You definitely deserved it!

I hope the weather can turn around quick so things get back on track for you. Good luck growing your colony this year.
Adam
Fifth Year Landlord
Anthony Neira
Posts: 1317
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:12 pm
Location: San Antonio /Texas
Martin Colony History: Started in 1992 From neighbors old 1950-60's colonies. Have 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 4 MPP Poles, 1 Heath Deluxe Gourd with Troyer Porch, 8 NatureLine Gourds with Troyer Porches, 5 Troyer Horizontals ,& 2 S&K 11" WITH Troyer Porches ready for 2019 Season !

Hang in There ! Sharon, it was a good sign that you saw others & that they went in the gourds ! You'll NEVER know, it might just take one crazy SY to make things happen, or at least shake things up ! time is on your side ! :grin: Anthony
PMCA Member, 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 1 Heath Deluxe Gourd with Troyer Porch, 8 NatureLine Gourds with Troyer Porches, 5 Troyer Horizontals + Tunnels, & 2 S&K Bo 11"s WITH Troyer Porches ! 4 MPPs, For 2019 Season !! :grin: Started in 1992 from Older '50-'60s Colonies.
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1940
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Sharon —. So glad even in this weather, that you still have one pair there And surviving.. Your main guy and gal will show up soon, I’m sure.... I had one Martin this morning here at home and also saw one buzzing my new houses at he Golf Course.. Couldn’t get my phone camara up fast enough to get a pic, but I will soon..

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Babies, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Babies, 4 fledged. :wink:
2021 — 6 Pair, 23 Eggs, So far. :wink:

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Babies and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Babies and 137 Fledged. :wink:
2021 — 26 Pair, 100 Eggs, So far.. :wink:
PMCA Member
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Thank you Adam! It’s a wonderful feeling! Good luck to you this year! I know it’s tough up there! :)

Anthony thank you my friend! I’m sure I’ll get more but dang it’s got to warm up! Good luck to you! :)

Dave Reynolds your going to be caring for martins this year! I feel it so strong! Good luck my friend!
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Sharon from southern Illinois
C.C.Martins
Posts: 1118
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA made adjustments and next year was successful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021:
Home colony: mix natural gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021:
PMCA member

Sharon, martins attract martins so when the weather breaks Im sure the subbies will be looking for homes and your pair will recruit for you. Fingers crossed for you.
Tom
PMCA member, believer in nest checks, venting, SREH and pest/predator protection.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3134
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

It's also not a guarantee that a martin from last year will choose the same gourd/cavity as the previous year. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. Just because they are not in the same gourds doesn't mean they are not martins from last year.
202160 nests with 187 eggs (6-3-20) HOSP count-9
2020 Currently 42 nest, Fledged approx 164 HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Will martins always use the same cavity from the previous year?

NO! Yes, they will if they liked it the previous year and are the first to return, select it and then defend it. But the majority of the time, there is always some fighting for the best cavities and it may not be the one they used the previous year. It happens in every colony.

I found this on chuck Abare FAQ website! I always thought they would use the same gourd or house if they were successful with that gourd. I will see what gourd the next pair that shows up uses! :grin:
Sharon from southern Illinois
Archer
Posts: 778
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:09 pm
Location: Manitoba/Altona
Martin Colony History: six pair in 2014, have grown to 52 pairs in 2017.

I have had a banded female here for two summers, She was on the same setup but choose a different hole. Same side of house. First year she was in a Troyer gourd, next year in the T14.
2011- first year trying, a few visitors.
2012-One ASY pair, raised two young, lots of subby visitors. So thankfull.
2013-daily subby visits.
2014-Six SY pairs
2015-18 pair, 83 fledglings
2016-36 pair, 147 fledglings
2017-52 pairs, 192 fledglings.
2018-60 pair, 246 fledglings.
2019-59 pair, 238 fledglings.
2020-62 pair.
Indiana_Tom
Posts: 288
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:01 am
Location: Paragon, Indiana

You will all be happy to know I have ordered some warmer weather since it has been unusually cold this year. I am expecting this warmer weather to arrive in the midwest starting mid day tomorrow and it should be with us for a while. Nothing too hot but highs in the mid 50s to mid 60s for a couple of weeks. If we are lucky, we will get a few sprinkles but nothing like heavy rain during this period.

As most springs are, expect it to be windy. But wind is not always a bad thing for martins. I generally get most of my martin in on windy days when they can travel fast and far.

Good luck all with your little friends.
2009, 1 pair of SYs w/4 eggs - wait, no 4 babies and all 4 fledged. What a great experience.
2010, 2 ASY pair and 2 SY pair 18eggs / 14 fledged.
2011, 12 pair with 49 eggs, 43 fledged.
2012, 20 pair with 113 eggs as of 1 June
2013, 22 pair with 112 eggs as of 9 June
2014, 23 pair with 113 eggs
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1940
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Archer wrote:I have had a banded female here for two summers, She was on the same setup but choose a different hole. Same side of house. First year she was in a Troyer gourd, next year in the T14.

Archer.. That a pretty good way to know the answer to that question.. Being able to watch a known banded bird. Some time change is good..

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Babies, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Babies, 4 fledged. :wink:
2021 — 6 Pair, 23 Eggs, So far. :wink:

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Babies and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Babies and 137 Fledged. :wink:
2021 — 26 Pair, 100 Eggs, So far.. :wink:
PMCA Member
Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Well this appears to be my year off again.... lol. I'm no longer going to sweat it one way or the other. If it happens it happens. I haven't seen hide or hair of a martin this year. The three SY males that hung out last year or the pair that fledged 4 haven't returned either. I typically, (past six years) do not see my first martin until May 17 which happens to be my wife's birthday. If I don't get a returning ASY bird I suppose I'll have to fire up the Dawnsong when the SY's start to arrive.

Best of luck to everyone.

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
BillieJR
Posts: 683
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:39 am
Location: Monroe, WI

Don't feel bad, Mitch! I haven't seen on this year yet either. Good luck to us both.
Billie from south central Wisconsin
Archer
Posts: 778
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:09 pm
Location: Manitoba/Altona
Martin Colony History: six pair in 2014, have grown to 52 pairs in 2017.

Dave Reynolds wrote:
Archer wrote:I have had a banded female here for two summers, She was on the same setup but choose a different hole. Same side of house. First year she was in a Troyer gourd, next year in the T14.

Archer.. That a pretty good way to know the answer to that question.. Being able to watch a known banded bird. Some time change is good..

Dave

I'll be watching to see if she returns again this summer.
2011- first year trying, a few visitors.
2012-One ASY pair, raised two young, lots of subby visitors. So thankfull.
2013-daily subby visits.
2014-Six SY pairs
2015-18 pair, 83 fledglings
2016-36 pair, 147 fledglings
2017-52 pairs, 192 fledglings.
2018-60 pair, 246 fledglings.
2019-59 pair, 238 fledglings.
2020-62 pair.
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2989
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Mitch Booth you have a good while yet! I think the young birds that nested at your sight will be there May 1. I am not convinced that this is my pair from last year because of the early arrival! They have never looked into the gourd they were in last year. I watch a lot! I’m here all day long and am outside or in the shop with my head out the window!!! :lol: :lol:
So that being said I’m still waiting for that pair to come in and at least look into that gourd to see what’s in it! I also have AL the SY male who was the gate keeper. He has to return. He just loved it here! So we still have time! Good luck my friend!!!
Sharon from southern Illinois
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1940
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Mitch Booth wrote:Well this appears to be my year off again.... lol. I'm no longer going to sweat it one way or the other. If it happens it happens. I haven't seen hide or hair of a martin this year. The three SY males that hung out last year or the pair that fledged 4 haven't returned either. I typically, (past six years) do not see my first martin until May 17 which happens to be my wife's birthday. If I don't get a returning ASY bird I suppose I'll have to fire up the Dawnsong when the SY's start to arrive.

Best of luck to everyone.

Mitch
Mitch —. That is amazing how their calendars work... A few years ago when I lived in town and had Martins on a regular basic three years in a row.... They (the Martins), always showed up on Mother’s Day, give a day either side of Mother’s Day.. It always was kind of crazy, on that day.. Just went out side and waited and they never end disappointed me.. Just like clock work..

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Babies, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Babies, 4 fledged. :wink:
2021 — 6 Pair, 23 Eggs, So far. :wink:

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Babies and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Babies and 137 Fledged. :wink:
2021 — 26 Pair, 100 Eggs, So far.. :wink:
PMCA Member
sugarcreek
Posts: 232
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:43 am
Location: Sugarcreek, Ohio
Martin Colony History: 2016 First Yr.

Mitch Booth wrote:Well this appears to be my year off again.... lol. I'm no longer going to sweat it one way or the other. If it happens it happens. I haven't seen hide or hair of a martin this year. The three SY males that hung out last year or the pair that fledged 4 haven't returned either. I typically, (past six years) do not see my first martin until May 17 which happens to be my wife's birthday. If I don't get a returning ASY bird I suppose I'll have to fire up the Dawnsong when the SY's start to arrive.

Best of luck to everyone.

Mitch
Boy dont give up yet...There will be lots of Martins coming through ...Its just to plain cold for many to be migrating....I know i got 14 in a day and they still are not all back...
2016 - 14 Compartments 4 Active Nests 9 fledged, 2.25 Fledged per Active Nest
2017 - 36 Compartments 18 Active Nests 65 Fledged, 3.61 Fledged per Active Nest
2018 - 54 Compartments 43 Active Nests 169 Fledged, 3.93 Fledged per Active Nest
2019 - 108 Compartments 67 Active Nests 209 Fledged, 3.12 Fledged per Active Nest
2020 - 108 Compartments 72 Active Nests 243 Fledged, 3.38 Fledged per Active Nest
2021 - 110 Compartments
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