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LisaJ
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Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:47 am
Location: North Texas

I have a baby PM that has fuzzy not quite feathers and short wings. i have other babies that are fully feathered. but not fledged. None of the adult, male or female are feeding him. every time one adult flies in, he begs for food. i am in Texas and it is hot. i want to save this little guy! he wont make it without water and food.
your help, pleeeease
LisaJ
Posts: 88
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Location: North Texas

he has been on the porch for a long time...
update, he leaned over too far and was upside down. ii grabbed the ladder, got him unstuck.
i put him in with the other, older PM'S. Maybe he will get some food. will he?
Brad Biddle
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Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:22 pm
Location: Marshall County AL

He won't be able to compete against the older nestlings. I've never raised one but if you intend for him to survive, you'll likely have to finish raising him.
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 162 plastic gourds with tunnels, all with Conley II entrances with the Lewis modification. I have 24 Supergourds and the rest are Troyer Horizontals.
LisaJ
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Location: North Texas

what do I feed him? at the feed store they have live crickets and dried mealworms
C.C.Martins
Posts: 1127
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA made adjustments and next year was successful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021:
Home colony: mix natural gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021:
PMCA member

Live crickets are good, stun the crickets dont want them fighting and harming the chick on the way down. Dont do dried mealworms.
Dip the crickets in water or pedialite.
Boy hope it works out.
Tom
PMCA member, believer in nest checks, venting, SREH and pest/predator protection.
Conrad Baker
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Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:43 pm
Location: Paulina, Louisiana

Maybe some scrambled eggs? Someone may be able to give you the best way, I seem to remember not using butter or oil to cook them in. Crickets will work too, as CC suggested, maybe stun them, or freeze them to slow them down a little.
Spiderman
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:19 am
Location: Gladewater, Texas

I buy 100 crickets at a time. A place that sells bait for fishing is usually the cheapest route. Put them in a gallon zip lock bag with air inside and put them in the freezer. In 20 minutes they will be stunned.

I Usually take out 8 or 10 on a saucer, they will be thawed out in a few minutes.

Take a shot glass and add some Gatorade. Dip the thawed cricket in Gatorade and touch the babies bill with the cricket. His mouth should pop open. If not pry his bill with the top of your fingernail where it hinges together. Once he knows its food he will take crickets easily.

In the meantime you might look for a bird rehabber in the area. I know there is one in Palestine, Texas I have taken babies to in the past. They spend their own money to do this, so I usually make a nice donation to make sure the Martins are cared for.
Local Game Warden may know a rehabber close to you.

Good Luck, it's allot of work, but he'll return next year and be one of your strongest birds.
2008 - 33 PAIR - FLEDGED 96 YOUNG
2009 - 51 PAIR - FLEDGED 166 YOUNG
2010 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 146 YOUNG
2011 - 33 PAIR - 128 HATCHED, 97 FLEDGED
2012 - 37 PAIR - 119 HATCHED, 101 FLEDGED
bbspalmer
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Location: Petersburg, NJ

Do you have any other nests that have about equal size young in it? If you do you can put it in that nest and those parents can raise him.
pmlover
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Location: OH/New Concord

yes put them in with smaller babies if you can
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2019 I have 148 openings now
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss
]JOINED PMCA JUNE 6,2018
2018 651 babies 5 hawk kills 11 floater kills 25 died in houses and 610 fledged

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died
LisaJ
Posts: 88
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:47 am
Location: North Texas

Update: I let him sleep overnight in a box with leaves and srickes. The next morning, I decided to put him back in the PM house. ALL compartments were empty and the sky had at least 30 PM adults and the adults.
i did find another baby about the same age as each other.
It is 6:45 in the evening, and there are
0 PMs , except for these two babies.
waiting to see if any of the adults will come feed them.
Thank you all for responding. Ya'll are the best!
-Lisa
C.C.Martins
Posts: 1127
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA made adjustments and next year was successful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021:
Home colony: mix natural gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021:
PMCA member

Thank you for taking care of them, its a tough time for the young. Did it eat? Parents will know they are there, watch close your best bet may very well be the rehabber someone suggested if they arent getting fed.
Parents will have a hard time feeding fledgelings and those left behind. My fear would be those left will get further and further behind.
Tom
PMCA member, believer in nest checks, venting, SREH and pest/predator protection.
LisaJ
Posts: 88
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:47 am
Location: North Texas

Thank you, Tom! Believe me, PM's are my passion!
LisaJ
Posts: 88
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:47 am
Location: North Texas

I am sad to report that the PM I tried so hard to help, died this morning in my hands. he was hurt by a sparrow, was still breathing and i am glad that he lived long enough to have a soft touch and a soft song as he took his last breath.
i hate sparrows. All of the fledglings kept encouraging him to fly yesterday but he simply couldn't.
so the apartments are dirty and empty of babies, though they all continue to call it home. Sparrows are trying to build nests in all of the compartments. They fly away when i go outside.
I am not sure what to do now.
Do I leave it alone except clean out all of the sparrows nest attempts every day?
I wish I could shoot them, but I cannot bc I am in a neighborhood.
have tried traps, trap door trap, and only caught one months ago.
thanks all for your support.
Lisa
tor
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Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: Capacity: 72 Troyers on 3 X Super-24 racks

Thanks for all you did. Sorry the little one died. As much as I hate to say it, unfortunately, that happens sometimes. We're trying the best we can, and sometimes that's not enough.
Location: Marlboro County, SC

2021: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22
2020: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/11 - 71 pair - 298 fledged
2019: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22 - 70 pair - 315 fledged
2018: Capacity: 70 - First Scouts: 2/18 - 60 pair - 270 fledged
2017: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 2/25 - 39 pair
2016: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 3/10 - 32 pair
2015: Capacity: 24 - First Scouts: 3/23 - 4 pair

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C.C.Martins
Posts: 1127
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA made adjustments and next year was successful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021:
Home colony: mix natural gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021:
PMCA member

That's tough, poor guy got left behind but at least it didnt suffer. You did what you could. Keep the crickets for next year i guess.
Sparrows. Its end of season, if the parents are brining the fledges home at night you probably dont want to close the house up just yet. Keep after the nesting sparrows. Best bet is to aggressively trap, trapping works so find the best trap that works in your Area and go for it. Trap all through the off season. Sparrow range isnt that large so do your best to get them.
I have limited shooting but still take the shots when i can. I have the PMCA live trap as well, works great.
Reguards
Tom
Tom
PMCA member, believer in nest checks, venting, SREH and pest/predator protection.
Brad Biddle
Posts: 523
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:22 pm
Location: Marshall County AL

From now until fall is the perfect time to use a bait trap for house sparrows. Pre bait the area for a week. Use white millet to bait with. Our Walmart carries a mostly white millet bird food. It’s Pennington Finch blend or something of the sort.
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 162 plastic gourds with tunnels, all with Conley II entrances with the Lewis modification. I have 24 Supergourds and the rest are Troyer Horizontals.
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