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CAK
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Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:22 pm
Location: Dallas TX

I put up a new Trendsetter martin house and within a day had several starlings checking it out and some began building nests. Fortunately it was before the SY were here and I put it down for a week and most went away. After raising again I still have 1 pair of pesky starlings there. Does anyone know how many starlings will live in a house? Are they territorial and won’t tolerate other starlings living near their house? I’m tempted to lower the house again to deter them but now the SY’s are in the area and I don’t want to discourage them. I have another 12 compartment house with lots of space. Any thoughts on lowering the Trendsetter house to deter the starling or leave up and try to shoot or trap them? I bought an insert trap.
deancamp
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

I believe shooting or trapping is the only way, they need to be eliminated. Do not let them nest there, it will only do damage.
Jeff Dean
bootjack farm
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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:30 am
Location: Russell, Pa
Martin Colony History: 9 years of trying hard...finally in 2017 I had 3 pair w/ 11 babies. T-14 +4 w/ 4 Troyer horiz. gourds. Troyer Super System 24. Fast forward to 2020... 64 fledged.

Your housing should have starling resistance entrances. I believe that will solve your problem.
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flyin-lowe
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Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

If you have very much of a starling population you should get some SREH and not worry about them. If you want to continue to try to trap/shoot them you can. They are so thick around here you could never make a dent in the population. Sometimes I will see thousands of them at a time in my yard and on the lines. I've had martin housing for over 15 years and have only had 1 starling breach SREH. There are plenty of things to worry about when housing martins, starlings shouldn't be one of them.
2021 Currently 62 nest 138 babies plus 110 eggs (6-317-21) HOSP count-9
2020 42 nest, Fledged 164 HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
CAK
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:22 pm
Location: Dallas TX

Thanks. Any concerns on installing SREH before the martins are established? Only had 1 pair last year so still trying to attract.
deancamp
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

It will take them a little while to learn how to navigate them but they will figure it out. If you only had one pair last year I would be playing the dawn song, etc as if you are starting new. There is no way to know if your pair from last year survived their migratory trip.
Jeff Dean
CAK
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Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:22 pm
Location: Dallas TX

Start of the weekend and just put in SREHs on the older house. They were the snap in kind that was part of the design. Also plugged 15 of 16 holes on the new house and set an insert trap in the open one. Game on!

I am pretty sure the pair from last year is back. Lots of visitors each day with the dawn song and a ASY pair has been staying the night. Blessed with an ideal location so we will see. Will be watching to see how the ASY pair navigates things on the old house.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3142
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

If you have an ASY pair staying the night more than a day or two that is a very good sign. Sometimes one will stay the night on its way further north. But after a couple days that’s probably not the case.
A big percentage of martins these days fledged from SREH so they have no problems at all. I would put them on now and not worry about them.
2021 Currently 62 nest 138 babies plus 110 eggs (6-317-21) HOSP count-9
2020 42 nest, Fledged 164 HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
CAK
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:22 pm
Location: Dallas TX

Thanks. I have to order or make some for the new house. Old house has them on as of today. Appreciate the advice. Insert trap did it’s thing and caught 2 starlings right off the bat. We’ll hope they figure it out.
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