Transplanting Martins from one colony to a new one

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ryan_thomas
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:17 pm
Location: San Angelo, Tx
Martin Colony History: 2020: 3 Pairs

Howdy!
I wanted to know if anyone has ever tried moving a SY pair of birds from one colony to a new site. My grandmother doesn’t have any birds and we have 12+ pairs. She has decoys and plays the dawn song religiously but there aren’t any colonies near her. Our birds don’t have eggs yet but are beginning nest building. Any information is appreciated!
2020: 3 Pairs
C.C.Martins
Posts: 1118
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA made adjustments and next year was successful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021:
Home colony: mix natural gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021:
PMCA member

Howdy, in short dont try it. Martins will be back to their original home before you make it back. Give it time.
Tom
PMCA member, believer in nest checks, venting, SREH and pest/predator protection.
Spiderman
Posts: 822
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:19 am
Location: Gladewater, Texas

Yeah, bad idea!
2008 - 33 PAIR - FLEDGED 96 YOUNG
2009 - 51 PAIR - FLEDGED 166 YOUNG
2010 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 146 YOUNG
2011 - 33 PAIR - 128 HATCHED, 97 FLEDGED
2012 - 37 PAIR - 119 HATCHED, 101 FLEDGED
Dave Duit
Posts: 1932
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:02 pm
Location: Iowa / Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2020, 60 pair with 285 fledged youngsters. 83 total cavities available, 58 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified deep trio metal house units, 1 fallout shelter, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President and founder of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit www.iamartin.org and join.

Ditto. It will just take time for her to get her own martins started at her location. It seems like a good idea and quick fix, but it is not good for the SY martins to be transplanted in a new place.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.
SSMartin
Posts: 314
Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:05 pm
Location: FL

Capture a pair of martins and release them at another site. They’ll fly up and never be seen there again. If you’re luckily they’ll return to where you captured them.
phldave
Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:44 pm
Location: Iowa/Pleasant Hill
Martin Colony History: Started trying in 2012 and still trying

There has been documented cases where mated pairs with young were captured in gourds and transplanted to another location and the adult pair even leave when they have young, So even the parental responsibility is not strong enough to make them stay. Federal law also prohibits this practice. I too have been trying for ten years to no avail, all we can do is keep struggling.
2012 late start
2013 nothing yet, lots a lookers
2014 Bust again
2015 Bust again
2016 Bust again
2017 Bust again
2018 April 14 a group joined me, but moved on after a week
2019 Had SY male seriously check me out but didn't stay
SSMartin
Posts: 314
Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:05 pm
Location: FL

phldave wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:18 pm
There has been documented cases where mated pairs with young were captured in gourds and transplanted to another location and the adult pair even leave when they have young, So even the parental responsibility is not strong enough to make them stay. Federal law also prohibits this practice. I too have been trying for ten years to no avail, all we can do is keep struggling.
I hope this year is your year!
avesrun
Posts: 1123
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102

Technically it's questionable whether even performing nest checks is legal; please dismiss/ let alone the idea of transporting martins. But I'm with you, I waited 7 yrs at my home and every thought crosses one's mind.
TimG
PMCA Member
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
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